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David Silverberg's avatar

This is above my pay scale, but as an ignorant person, if I understand you correctly, you are saying religion is not about simply being rewarded or penalized for doing good or bad because we are all sinners. The law is secondary. You are saying righteousness must be in the heart and the mind and precede the obeying of law. And that this is fundamental to Judaism, recognized by Jesus, and was a basis of his frustration. So, to return to true righteous Christianity, the path of understanding is through Judaism as taught by Jesus. Am I close?

I particularly enjoy the concept of the promise to Abraham. It means, to me, that nature affects us all, regardless of the laws we obey. Given I personally view religion as a way to explain nature, our history and our evolution, I find the translation of religion into nature interesting. IMHO, nature gives us right vs wrong, how to live, and many of the things Judaism and Christianity teach us. Religion is IMHO a way to describe nature along with its infinite unknowns. So I enjoy what you have to say Danny. Although I am secular, I do not find a lot of distance between myself and religious Christians.

Maxim's maxims's avatar

Wow, lots to unpack here. But a simple question to start: what is the incentive? People need an incentive to perform. If God gave us his grace upfront (salvation from Egypt is a clear example, Jesus give us his righteousness is another), then we have no incentive to perform. If we should not try to keep score of good vs bad deeds, at which we will fail, who will?

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